This week on He Said, She Said, Rick and Aggie dive into “The Beautiful People,” a loose, funny, and occasionally sideways look at celebrity beauty through the decades.

From Marilyn Monroe, Grace Kelly, Elizabeth Taylor, and Ava Gardner to Farrah Fawcett, Lynda Carter, Michelle Pfeiffer, Sandra Bullock, Halle Berry, Sydney Sweeney, Henry Cavill, Sam Elliott, Sean Connery, and more, the conversation moves beyond simple “hot or not” lists into what actually makes someone beautiful. Is it symmetry? Presence? A great smile? Confidence? A killer jawline? Aging gracefully? Or, in Aggie’s case, an extremely interesting skull?

Along the way, Rick and Aggie trace the changing beauty standards from the polished Hollywood bombshells of the 1950s to the rebellious glamour of the 1960s, the TV icons of the 1970s and 1980s, and today’s more complex celebrity landscape. They also talk about plastic surgery, aging naturally, charisma, personal taste, old Hollywood, classic TV, and why some people become more attractive because of how they carry themselves.

It’s part nostalgia trip, part pop-culture debate, part anthropology lesson, and part hilarious reminder that beauty may be in the eye of the beholder. Still, some people definitely have better skulls than others.

This episode includes AI-generated content.